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Scouting News

September '97

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Results From ScouTrees Mixed: Minutes


Present were : Sheila McCoy, Chairperson; Eric Locke, Willow Valley; John Hines, West Scarborough; Bob Raymond, The Alders; Brian Booton, Old Mill; Reuben Chan, Old Mill; Ken Poole, Humber West; Marian Dumouchel, Scarborough East; Bruce Stafford, Brownsea; Ken Carey, Agincourt; Frank Grisbrook, Scout House Representative.

Inclement weather

Sheila McCoy welcomed and thanked everyone for all of their Area efforts despite the very inclement weather and the many late changes that were made.

After a brief presentation, she asked each of the representatives to give their own views, reports and complaints if any.

there was a very serious problem with group representatives and Area co-ordinators who took it themselves to contact Metro Parks and arrange an alternative date for tree planting. Not informing Sheila McCoy or Frank Grisbrook at Scout House caused great problems.

Advise of changes

It must be remembered that as a Co-ordinator, you may have been allocated a park to plant perhaps 2,000 trees. What you may not be aware of is that we have assigned that park to one or two other Areas as was the case this year. Please advise the office of any changes that you are making.

Bruce Stafford reported that there was a lack of bodies out because of the dark rainy dismal day. Only 15% of all of Brownsea came out for the event. Because of the bad weather and the poor turnout, planting was reorganized for the following Thursday. There was a bright side to all of this. Black Creek, one of our planting sites has honoured Scouting with a plaque that will be unveiled in the Fall outlining our continued efforts to establish a grove of trees on site.

Rain date?

Ken Carey of Agincourt Area advises that there should be a rain date established for such an event. Unfortunately, after much discussion this proves improbable because of the short time frame involved and the number of people that would have to be contacted. He asked if it were possible to plant at a later date.

Sheila advised that she will contact the Ministry as well as the Cities and borough to find out just what plans would be in the works for next year (the first year of theMegacity).

Communication breakdown

Ken Poole of Humber West reported a complete breakdown in communications. The planting site was out of their Area. first word was that there would be many trees, later that there would be no trees and finally that there would be 250 large trees. Unfortunately, the trees proved to be just a little larger than saplings and did not require a number of youth to plant each tree.

There were not enough trees, the weather was bad and there was a definite feeling of disappointment in the Area. It is doubtful as to how many groups will participate next year.


Bob Raymond of The Alders asked the question - Has "Trees" run its course? He suggested that now is the time for the cities, the Borough and the Megacity along with the Ministry advise us where we stand. They received excellent support from Parks and Recreation. Two Groups in his Area decided to plant on Sunday. The Parks people were most cooperative in offering help and manpower for the extra planting day.

Loss of charm

He has reported that many Scouting families feel that as a fund raiser, trees has lost its charm. Parents are getting upset about the constant barrage of fund raising schemes from Scouting, Schools, Churches and other organizations to which their children belong.

John Hines of West Scarborough reported that he was unable to attend the event because of a viral throat infection report; however, all trees allotted to his Area were planted. He praised the gentleman from East York Parks and Recreation, Joe Riaz, for his excellent cooperation and help in the event. There was a last minute change in the planting site and Joe and his crew were most helpful in making everyone aware of the change. Approximately, 50% of the Area was represented at the planting sites.

Eric Locke of Willow Valley reported that he had two planting sites and found that there was an overabundance of trees to be planted in the two sites. One Group arranged for a Sunday planting. There were 3,000 trees at G. Ross Lord Park and too few planters. Although there wer fewer tree planters, numbers were still up from last year. Ten Groups participated from the Area with an additional two groups from Sunnybrook, the Area that does not choose to take part in this Regional Event.

Good participation

Marian Dumouchel of East Scarborough reported lots of participation from the groups in the Area despite the bad weather. She also praised the efforts of the members of Parks and Recreation. She also advises us that three groups within the Scarborough Area have adopted parks and that we should keep this in mind when we are assigning planting sites.

Members of the 35th Toronto (Seton) Scout Troop began a partnership with members of the Metro Toronto Police in April 1997 when a request for PROACTION assistance was made by Det/Cst Stephen Henkel of the East Field Command Drug Squad.

PROACTION (Cops Helping Kids) is a non profit organization which provides financial assistance for programs that foster positive relationships and enhance interaction, communication and rapport between youth and police. A partnership between the 35th Toronto Scout Troop, (led by their leader Mark McDermid of Victim Services) and several certified P.A.D.I. SCUBA Instructors, who are active police officers, began.

Ten Scout members began a fundraising drive in order to assist with the funds needed to certify the participants as P.A.D.I. Junior Open Water Divers. Half of the funds needed were provided by PROACTION. The remaining balance was fundraised by the youth through a community based fundraiser known as a Silent Auction where over sixty businesses in the Beaches community contributed.

The Scouts entered into the first segment of the Basic Open Water Course during the month of May, 1997, comprised of in class learning followed by confined water training in a local community pool.

On the weekend of May 30th, 31st and June 1st C/C Henkel and D/C Peter Hamilton (North West Field Command Drug Squad) attended Camp Endobanah located in Norland Ontario. The camp is owned and operated by a local GTR Scout Group. The equipment needed to rent for the endeavour included: full wet suits, regulators, buoyancy compensator devices, snorkels, masks, fins for each member plus over twenty air cylinders. Arrangements with the Lindsay Fire Department were made to provide air for the refill of any empty air tanks.

A drug lecture was provided by D/C's Henkel and Hamilton to over 15 Scouts and 25 Cubs in attendance enabling them to complete requirements for their law awareness badge and Scout Citizen Badge. The weekend also included singing songs around the campfire and participating in skits where the Officers endured a "Scouting style" initiation. A game of Capture the Flag was also organized on Saturday evening. One team of Scouts led by police against another team of Scouts led by Venturer S.I.T.'s Peter Cosgrove and James Hogan. (The Police team lost!)

During the weekend, the youth endured a series of four dives conducted in cold water with very low visibility. All of the Scouts successfully completed the requirements for their certification and have all obtained the rank of P.A.D.I. Junior Open Water Diver - a lifelong certification that enables them to dive anywhere in the world.

The Scouts are now hoping to plan a trip to Orlando, Florida in order to do some real diving and, of course, visit the land of Mickey Mouse. They are also hoping to do some diving at summer camp at Haliburton Scout Reserve.

Many thanks to Cathy Disera (P.A.D.I. Instructor) for donating her time and tolerating the lineups at the outhouses and to Tam Dive for assisting with the equipment. An underwater video of the weekend was made by D/C Hamilton and provided to all the participants.

If other Scout Troops/Venturer Companies or Rover Crews are interested in organizing a similar SCUBA course, D/C Henkel is willing to provide similar courses. He can be reached at 330-6075.

A Scout's Thoughts, 1997

Imagine you are 12 years old, and your name is Jeffery. You are a scout, or at least, you were last year.

The fall's first meeting is next week, and you're not sure you'll go back. Dad told you Scouting was a "great adventure", and you'd learn about outdoors and camp stuff and have fun. Seems like most meetings you just sit in the church basement and play the same boring games. Scouter Tom seems to be trying hard, but you don't go out much and you wait for badges and stuff and everything you get is scrounged from somewhere.

Troop went to camp once last year, and that was ruined because of rain and the mildewed tents leaked and two of the camp stoves couldn't be started. And Dad was mighty upset when you asked him for money for the camp. He said his troop paid its own way with bottle drives, and paper drives, and amateur shows, and by doing odd jobs and stuff.

No one from your Troop went to the Jamboree. They couldn't afford it and Scouter Tom says that every time he asks for money the other Leaders get mad because the Apple Day money belongs to the Cubs and Beavers, too.

Your friend Ted goes to a different Troop. They all went to the jamboree, and they're always camping and doing great things, and have super gear. They have money for their program because they fundraise. Ted says they sell Trail's End Popcorn. They're really well-organized, they plan their campaign, and he feels good knowing he helped pay for their great programs, and important because he helps pay his own way. Ted almost never has to ask his Dad for Scouting money, and, oh yeah, next summer they're travelling to some big Scout camp out West in the States.

You like the guys in your Troop, but...hey, maybe your Group could do some serious fundraising....

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From its beginning, Scouting's members have participated in Group/Section Fundraising and have recognized that it contributes significantly to a varied and exciting program.

But participation in fundraising activities contributes in many other ways to the personal growth and learning experience of the individual. The following are some of those ways:

Perhaps we should use as much imagination to shape fundraising as a meaningful aspect of youth development as we expend in excuses to avoid doing it at all.

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